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WELCOME TO ST LOUIS SECONDARY SCHOOL

WELCOME TO ST LOUIS SECONDARY SCHOOL. TALK ON OPTIONS FOR FURTHER STUDY 4th OCTOBER 2012. WHAT IS AVAILABLE?. IN THE REPUBLIC OF IRELAND in CAO THERE ARE 48 COLLEGES OFFERING MORE THAN 1,500 COURSES IN THE CAO ALONE. WHAT ELSE IS THERE?. PLCS/COLLEGES OF FURTHER ED APPRENTICESHIPS

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WELCOME TO ST LOUIS SECONDARY SCHOOL

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  1. WELCOMETO ST LOUIS SECONDARY SCHOOL TALK ON OPTIONS FOR FURTHER STUDY 4th OCTOBER 2012

  2. WHAT IS AVAILABLE? IN THE REPUBLIC OF IRELAND in CAO THERE ARE 48 COLLEGES OFFERING MORE THAN 1,500 COURSES IN THE CAO ALONE

  3. WHAT ELSE IS THERE? • PLCS/COLLEGES OF FURTHER ED • APPRENTICESHIPS • GARDA and DEFENCE FORCES • PRIVATE COLLEGES

  4. UCAS • OVER 51,000 COURSES IN UCAS SYSTEM • ALMOST 2,000 IRISH STUDENTS TOOK UP UCAS PLACES THIS YEAR

  5. UCAS COURSES • UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES IN UK- ENGLAND, SCOTLAND AND WALES. • ULSTER UNIVERSITY AND QUEENS IN NORTHERN IRELAND. • SOCIAL WORK COURSES IN COLLEGES OF FURTHER EDUCATION.

  6. WHO SHOULD APPLY to UCAS? TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION • COST OF FEES ( £6,000-£9,000 NI £3,500- £4,000) • WILLINGNESS TO GO ABROAD • GETTING HOME • INTERVIEWS /EXTRA TESTS • ENTRY REQUIREMENTS HIGH FOR MANY COURSES. For example NORTHERN IRELAND 5 Hons. AT LEAST.

  7. ucas • 5 COURSES OR • FOUR COURSES IF APPLYING TO MEDICINE, DENTISTRY, VETERINARY MEDICINE, VETERINARY SCIENCE (15TH OCTOBER) • EXTRA TEST ie UKCAT

  8. UCAS • STUDENTS MUST BE CONSISTENT IN TYPES OF COURSES • STUDENTS PAY & SEND UCAS FORM ONLINE TO UCAS BY 26th OCT. • REFEREE WILL COMPLETE REFERENCE BY GOING TO UCAS SITE AFTER STUDENT HAS SENT FORM TO UCAS

  9. PERSONAL STATEMENT UCAS (SOME COLLEGES OF F.E. ALSO REQUIRE PS) • WHY YOU HAVE CHOSEN COURSES • WHAT INTERESTS YOU ABOUT COURSES • CAREER PLANS AFTER COURSE IS COMPLETED

  10. PERSONAL STATEMENT (cont.) • ANY INVOLVEMENT IN WORK PLACEMENT, PART TIME WORK, VOLUNTARY WORK, SUMMER WORK • YOUR FUTURE PLANS • YOUR SOCIAL, SPORTS OR LEISURE INTERESTS • SKILLS/QUALITIES • ACADEMIC INTERESTS

  11. PERSONAL STATEMENT (CONT) STUDENTS MUST SHOW HOW THEY HAVE DEVELOPED SKILLS AND ABILITIES THROUGH ACTIVITIES MUST SHOW ENTHUASISM.

  12. NURSING • ALL NURSING IN UK INCLUDING ULSTER and QUEENS UNIVERSITY IS THROUGH UCAS. ( QUEENS IS NO LONGER SEPARATE) • FUNDING(FEE) IS AVAILABLE FOR NURSING IN UK • ULSTER UNIVERSITY AND QUEENS HAVE PROVIDED A BURSARY-UNDER REVIEW • CHECK WITH THE COLLEGE

  13. UCAS TARIFF POINTS LEAVING POINTS

  14. UCAS • PAYMENT £12 STERLING FOR ONE COURSE • £23 STERLING FOR TWO OR MORE COURSES

  15. EXTRA TESTS FOR COURSES For entry to some courses extra tests are needed: • For example UKCAT for medicine (to become a doctor only) and dentistry in the UK • LNAT for some Law courses. • The HPAT-Ulster is required for those applying to Speech and Language, Physiotherapy, Dietetics, Radiography, Occupational Therapy and Podiatry in Ulster University. Cost £100.Apply online up to 9thJan.Test 2nd Feb Results late March 2013

  16. H PAT ULSTER • CRITICAL REASONING • INTERPERSONAL UNDERSTANDING • WRITTEN COMMUNICATION

  17. UCAS • MAY BE CALLED FOR INTERVIEW FEB/MARCH (some even before Christmas) • ONE TO FIVE OFFERS OR NO OFFER • CONDITIONAL ON RESULTS • ACCEPT ONE FIRM AND ONE INSURANCE OFFER

  18. UCAS • MAY ACCEPT/REJECT OFFER AFTER RESULTS COME OUT • SEND RESULTS TO COLLEGE OR PHONE COLLEGE (even if not what was required) • UCAS INDEPENDENT OF CAO

  19. ST MARY’S COLLEGE BELFAST • OUTSIDE OF UCAS • OFFERS COURSES IN PRIMARY SCHOOL TEACHING • SECONDARY SCHOOL TEACHING • LIBERAL ARTS DEGREE

  20. ST MARY’S COLLEGE BELFAST • SEPARATE APPLICATION - NOW OPEN • ONLINE. COMPLETE ALL AT ONCE. • PERSONAL STATEMENT. • NEED A REFEREE. • REFERENCE- COLLEGE WILL WRITE TO THE SCHOOL WHEN REFERENCE IS NEEDED. • ASK FOR APPLICATION IN BEFORE CHRISTMAS

  21. NURSING IN QUEENS • QUEENS HAVE A DIPLOMA. A NON MEANS TESTED BURSARY OF £4,000 –UNDER REVIEW • QUEENS NURSING –APPLY THROUGH UCAS

  22. FEES IN THE UK UNIVERSITIES • EACH UNI SETS ITS OWN FEES IN ENGLAND, N.I. AND WALES -MUST NOT EXCEED £9,000 • NORTHERN IRELAND £3,465 • SCOTLAND- EU STUDENTS NO FEE • APPLY TO SAAS(Student Awards Agency Scotland) • WALES –non – means tested tuition fee grant up to £5535- in effect pay £3,465 • PAY UP FRONT OR TAKE OUT A TUITION FEE LOAN • LOAN TO BE REPAID WHEN START EARNING AT LEAST £21,000

  23. BURSARIES • MANY UNIVERSITIES SET UP BURSARIES FOR- ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT/SPORT • OUR STUDENTS MAY NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR ALL OF THEM. NEED TO CHECK WITH COLLEGE.

  24. NHS BURSARIES SOME PARAMEDICAL COURSES MAY STILL BE COVERED BY THE NHS. YOU MUST CONTACT COLLEGES ULSTER UNIVERSITY STUDENTS DO NOT HAVE TO PAY FEES FOR: NURSING, PHYSIOTHERAPY, RADIOGRAPHY, SPEECH AND LANGUAGE THERAPY, OCCUPATIONAL THERAPY OR PODIATRY.

  25. SCHOLARSHIP • ULSTER UNIVERSITY HAVE AN ELITE ATHLETE SCHEME. • LOWER ACADEMIC ENTRY REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE SUCCESSFUL. • CLOSING DATE IN JAN • FORM AVAILABLE ON LINE (need time to work on it) • APPLY DIRECT TO UU (Download form)

  26. FEES IN COLLEGES OF FE. (NI) • COURSES IN COLLEGES LIKE NORTH WEST REGIONAL COLLEGE AND BELFAST METROPOLITAN COLLEGE HAVE HIGHER NATIONAL DIPLOMAS & FOUNDATION DEGREES. • THESE COURSES INCUR FEES. THIS YEAR £2,200 IN BELFAST MET. AND £1,380 IN NWRC THIS MAY INCREASE NEXT YEAR. • OTHER COURSES DO NOT USUALLY INCUR FEES EXCEPT FOR EXAMS AND SPECIALIST EQUIPMENT. THIS TOO MAY CHANGE.

  27. COLLEGES OF FE/HE IN NORTHERN IRELAND • NATIONAL CERTIFICATE • BTEC NATIONAL DIPLOMA OR HND • FOUNDATION DEGREES • APPLICATION IS DIRECTLY TO COLLEGE • SOCIAL WORK THROUGH UCAS

  28. FEES IN COLLEGES OF FE IN NI. • COURSES LIKE HAIRDRESSING AND BEAUTY THERAPY CAN BE EXPENSIVE BECAUSE OF THE KITS NEEDED

  29. REPUBLIC OF IRELAND • NEW QUALIFICATIONS FRAMEWORK • NATIONAL/INTERNATIONAL WAY OF MEASURING ALL QUALIFICATIONS • LEAVING CERT IS AT LEVEL 4 AND LEVEL 5 • HIGHER CERTIFICATE(LEVEL 6) • ORDINARY (L7) AND HON DEGREE(L8)

  30. NATIONAL FRAMEWORK

  31. CAO • 48 COLLEGES • OVER 1,500 COURSES

  32. WHAT IS IN THE CAO? ALL COURSES IN THE UNIVERSITIES AND THE INSTITUTES OF TECHNOLOGY. MOST OF THE COURSES in UNIVERSITIES ARE LEVEL 8 ie COMMERCE, NURSING, MEDICINE, LAW, ARTS, SCIENCE AND ENGINEERING (WITH SOME EXCEPTIONS ie DENTAL NURSING) IN THE INSTITUTES OF TECHNOLOGY THERE ARE LEVEL 6, 7, and 8 (ladder system exists) HIGHER CERT., ORDINARY DEGREE AND HONOURS DEGREE.

  33. NURSING • IN REP OF IRELAND ALL NURSING IS THROUGH LEVEL 8 HONS DEGREE SECTION OF CAO • Choice of General, Psychiatric, Intellectual Disability, Children’s and General combined and Midwifery

  34. CAO Application is on line or by paper application-opens 5 November On line is the preferred method Cost is €25 if application is in by 20th Jan €40 on line or paper by 1st Feb 2013 Have the option of paying by credit card or in the bank with a fee payment form Form available on request from CAO

  35. CAO • CHOOSE UP TO TEN COURSES FROM LEVEL 8 (HIGHER DEGREE) • FURTHER TEN COURSES FROM LEVEL 6/7 (ORDINARY DEGREE/HIGHER CERTIFICATE) • CHANGE OF MIND 1ST JULY 2013 AT 5.15PM • CHANGING OF MIND ON COURSES CANCEL OUT YOUR PREVIOUS LIST OF COURSES

  36. CAO RESTRICTED COURSES MUST BE INCLUDED IN LISTS BY 1ST FEBRUARY

  37. CAO • 6 BEST SUBJECTS in LC COUNT FOR POINTS • THEY THEN LOOK AT DAUGHTER’S LIST AND OFFER HER THE COURSE HIGHEST IN HER PREFERENCES FOR WHICH SHE HAS POINTS • SHE MAY GET ONE ON THE LEVEL 8 AND ONE ON LEVEL 6/7 LIST • SHE ACCEPTS OR REJECTS THE OFFERS KEEPING ONLY ONE

  38. These are the applicants for CK101 Arts in CORK UCC The examination results have not yet been released, so these applicants are in no particular order. We are going to trace the progress of the applicant marked in red.

  39. Applicants are placed in a queue for each course they applied for, their position in the queue is determined by their points. The applicant with the highest points is placed at the top of the queue. The points achieved by the applicant in red determines her position in the queue for each course she applied to.

  40. The applicants marked in green have enough points to be offered places. The applicant marked in red has enough points for her second preference.

  41. CAO • IN ROUND 2 EVEN IF THE OTHER OFFERS WERE ACCEPTED OR REJECTED SHE MAY GET A FURTHER OFFER IN EACH LIST (provided she has not already been offered her 1st choice) • AGAIN IT CAN BE ACCEPTED OR REJECTED AT THIS STAGE • MUST BE AROUND TO ATTEND TO THESE DECISIONS • OFFER LAPSES AFTER A CERTAIN TIME

  42. DECIDING ON COURSES IN CAO • STUDENT PUTS DOWN THE COURSE THEY REALLY WANT FIRST, THEN CONTINUE IN ORDER OF PREFERENCE • IF CAO OFFERS STUDENT HER FIRST CHOICE STUDENT WILL NOT GET ANY MORE OFFERS AT THIS LEVEL.

  43. IT IS VITAL THAT EACH STUDENT HAS A BACK UP IN HER APPLICATION MOST COURSES CAN BE ACCESSED IN AN ALTERNATIVE WAY. WHILE IT MAY BE A LONGER ROUTE, IF IT IS WHAT THE STUDENT WANTS IT MAY BE WORTH THE WAIT.

  44. TUITION FEES • NO TUITION FEES AT PRESENT • REGISTRATION FEE IN EACH COLLEGE/UNI €2,288(DCU) €2,250(UCD)

  45. COLLEGES OF F.E. HAVE REGISTRATION FEES • €200 gov. levy introduced on P.L.C. courses • RANGE FROM €350 – €800 DEPENDING ON COURSE STUDIED • Exempt if entitled to student grant

  46. FEES IN THE CAO • FEES APPLY IF A STUDENT CHANGES COURSE OR HAS A REPEAT YEAR • FEES ALSO APPLY IN PRIVATE COLLEGES • THERE ARE TAX ALLOWANCES FOR SOME COURSE FEES IN APPROVED PRIVATE COLLEGES

  47. FEES IN PRIVATE COLLEGES • DUBLIN BUSINESS SCHOOL FEES €5,200-€5,700 • GRIFFITH COLLEGE FEES €4,950-5,950 • SOME COMPUTER SCIENCE DEGREES ARE PARTLY FUNDED BY DES. BUT €2,000 STILL PAYABLE • TAX RELIEF IS ALLOWABLE AT LOWER RATE (INFORMATION FROM REVENUE) SOME COURSES ARE ACCREDITED BY ENGLISH UNIVERSITIES. ie LAW AND BUSINESS MANAGEMENT IN DBS.

  48. MONTESSORI TEACHINGAMI COLLEGE • APPLICATION TO THE COLLEGE • RECOGNISED BY DES FOR TEACHING OF SPECIAL NEEDS • CAN DO UP TO DEGREE LEVEL • FEES LAST YEAR €5,300- € 5,500

  49. ST NICHOLAS IS ALSO A MONTESSORI COLLEGE WHERE FEES ARE €5,610 HOWEVER STUDENTS CAN FOLLOW A COURSE IN MONTESSORI IN A COLLEGE OF FURTHER EDUCATION WHERE FEES ARE ONLY CHARGED FOR EXAMS

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