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A B C , 1 2 3 . . .

A B C , 1 2 3 . . . the triadic dialectics of August Deese. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho7796-au8U. introduction three outta two ain’t bad private investigations Hegel versus Deese : the logical song the proof of the pudding is in the eating

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  1. A B C , 1 2 3 . . . the triadicdialectics of August Deese

  2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho7796-au8U

  3. introduction • three outta two ain’t bad • private investigations • Hegel versus Deese : the logical song • the proof of the pudding is in the eating • in life ... in my life • in anthropopsychiatry ... mama weer all crazee now • in therapy ... I don’t wanna talk about it • open dialogue : ‘there must be some way out of here’

  4. i n t r o d u c t i o n http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=two+outta+three+ain%27t+bad+meatloaf+official+video&oq=two+outt&gs_l=youtube-reduced.1.0.0l4.88772.94253.0.100377.16.15.0.1.1.0.3457.11319.5j6j9-3.14.0...0.0...1ac.1.gRNsE1a2Efs

  5. three outta two ain’t bad • dialogue  2 • all good things come in threes • structurally • in life • clinically

  6. private investigations http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9K27HvhDxA

  7. August Deese • Jacques Schotte

  8. August Deese (1928 – 1988) ‘the unknownphilosopher’ “c’estlephilosophele plus original et le plus important de Fribourgdepuis Heidegger” (Albert Chapelle s.j.) (Schotte, 2006, p. 118) It’s the most original and the most important philosopher since Heidegger “pas unephrase, pas un mot” “il a toutemportéavec lui dans sa tombe” (Schotte, 2006, p. 124) Not a sentence, not a word He took everything to his grave

  9. Jacques Schotte (Ghent, 1928 – 2007, Ghent)

  10. H e g e l v s . D e e s e Georg Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel (Stuttgart, 27 augustus 1770 – Berlijn, 14 november 1831)

  11. http://www.wat.tv/video/supertramp-the-logical-song-1979-35rbx_2g9el_.htmlhttp://www.wat.tv/video/supertramp-the-logical-song-1979-35rbx_2g9el_.html

  12. all good things come in threes the Hegelian dialectic  endless repetition of itself (closed system)

  13. the triadic dialectics of August Deese transcends the classical dialectic, opening something new (open system)  ‘ouvertureglobale’

  14. T R A N S F O R MA T I O N first term - second term - third term dialectic tension dialectic relation as such

  15. essential difference the third term is the dialectic relation breaking open the first term mediated by the second term leading to transformation

  16. ‘it’s just because of the third term that the whole can articulate itself ànd that the difference between the two other terms can be transcended’ (Schotte, p. 54)

  17. accent on the last of the three terms, because this is their ‘real goal and real origin’ (‘leur véritablebut et leur vraie origine’) Noticepourintroduireleproblèmestructural de la Schicksalsanalyse In: Jacques Schotte, Szondi avec Freud, Ed. De Boeck-Wesmael, 1990, p. 53

  18. K E R N E L in the ontogenetic order is involved in reversed direction an ontologicalorder  the goal becomes the origin

  19. t h e p r o o f o f t h e p u d di n gi s i n t h e e a t i n g

  20. IN LIFE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKQpRgxyyqo

  21. BASIS FOUNDATION ORIGIN

  22. BASIS • - Greek: marching, firmness • in relation to the mother(ly) (f.i. basic trust) • enables to stay upright • staying alive ...

  23. FOUNDATION • sustains the BASIS • in relation to the Father: Père/Pairs (father/peers) • in relation to the Law

  24. ORIGIN • Latin: oriri: being born • the thrill to live as the subject itself • - ... life that the father and the mother can’t give

  25. the developmental (ontogenetic) perspective: mother & father  the child the structural (non-genetic, ontological) perspective

  26. basis foundation developmental ‘Mother comes first’ ... structural the Father(ly) supports the Mother(ly) the foundation of the basis

  27. origin structural perspective everybody is continually called to find in the first two terms the germs of its own origin through transformation of the first two terms towards a transformation of itself developmental perspective the adolescence as the beginning of being oneself

  28. IN ANTHROPOPSYCHIATRY

  29. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gPulu85q04

  30. Le Prix de l’Évolution psychiatrique 2009

  31. Leo Ruelens Naar een nieuwe psychiatrie - Het rebelse denken van Jacques Schotte Literarte, Kessel-Lo 2010

  32. the typical human psychopathologies affecting the human person às human being

  33. 4 ground pathologies

  34. thymopsychopathy - mood disorders - toxicomania - psychopathy perversion neurosis psychosis

  35. 1) neurosis as the negative of perversion (Freud) ‘Neurose istsozusagen das Negativ der Perversion.’ Freud, DreiAbhandlungenzurSexualtheorie, 1905

  36. ‘ the pervert is doing what the neurotic is dreaming of’ (Freud)

  37. 2) classes ( DSM) interactive pathological ground structures of being entangled in psychopathology

  38. third term PSYCHOSIS PERVERSION THYMOPSYCHOPATHY NEUROSIS second term first term

  39. IN THERAPY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryZSZVmTzzM

  40. dire discourirparler SagenRedenSprechen talking discoursing speaking

  41. dire Sagen talking to do a lot of talking to run out of words

  42. discourirReden discoursing an intersubjective reference a subject wants to influence the other(s)

  43. parlerSprechen speaking a real dialogue transformation: still the same, not the same anymore

  44. g i v i n g a n e w d y n a m i c by means of the second term (discoursing) to the first term (talking) keeping the speech act and therapeutic change open

  45. the heart of the matter

  46. Jean Oury (° 1924) founder and ‘médecindirecteur’ of ‘La Borde’ in Cour- Cheverny (France) One of the founding fathers of the ‘PsychothérapieInstitutionnelle’

  47. ‘ouvrir les systèmesinstitutionnelscloisonnés’ opening the closed institutionnel systems in the broad sense of the word ! ‘dialectiser les systèmes’ dialecting the systems

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